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#12: Gray Cietek (SO/SP 3w4 368) — Socially Tracking Others, Truly "Seeing" Others, and the Heart's Silent Communication Underneath Words
Gray and I have similar typing, and in this episode we explore what social 3 is "really wanting," underneath the stereotypical social 3's polish and comportment. This conversation gets to the heart of the Social 3 in...
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#11: Sam Leuenberger (SP/SO 7w6 712) — The (Avoidant) "Fun" of Talk Therapy; Vulnerability as an Attraction Strategy; & Going Back to Feelings School
Sam is an essayist and poet who recently discovered he is a 7, having mistyped as a 4 for years. Before this interview, Sam sent me his beautifully articulated thoughts on being a 7 -- a link to which is below. This...
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#10: Joseph Stalteri (SO/SX 4w3 461) — Frustration in the Heart Center, the Resting Attitude of Disdain, & Seeking Refined Social Intimacy
Joseph Salteri is a Type 4 (SO/SX 4w3 461) and is part of the team that runs Enneagrammer.com. He wrote all of the (excellent) content on the Enneagrammer website, including the written typing test, and he is one of...
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#9: Ikraam Ali (SO/SX 7w6 793) — Procrastinating Darkness, Frustration with Negativity AS Negativity, and Giving an "Honest Try" at Positivity
Ikraam Ali is a Type 7 (SO/SX 7w6 793) who works in local politics. She also has her own YouTube channel focused on Objective Personality System (OPS). This conversation challenged the stereotype of 7s as “positive”...
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#8: Dr. Mary Bates (SP/SO 6w7 692) — Core Sense of Responsibility, the Practice of Making Deliberate Mistakes, and How to Know When to Stop Brushing the Dog
Dr. Mary Bates is a Type 6 (SP/SO 6w7 692) primary care doctor, writer, and mother of 2. Mary discovered she is a 6 with the help of the Enneagrammer typing team after having mistyped as a 2 and a 9, the other two...
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#7: Jess (SO/SP 5w6 538) — Risking Exposure, the Symbolic Objects I Put Between Us, and the Terror of Mindless, Soul-Dead Zombie-People
Jess is a Type 5 (SO/SP 5w6 538) writer and artist “based on the internet.” Like many 5s, she prefers her privacy and requested that I mention no signifiers of her identity beyond the above. She originally typed as a...
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#6: John Luckovich (SX/SP 4w5) — The Inner Middle Finger, the Crushing Gloss of Artifice, and the Sourcing of Identity in Depth Itself
John Luckovich is one of the most brilliant and authentic Enneagram teachers of my generation. His teaching is clear, challenging, thought-provoking, and comes from sincere desire to illuminate the psyche and...
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#5: Kelsey Bishop (SP/SO 3w2 378) — Chasing "The Dream" vs "My Dream," Authenticity at Work, and Learning How to Rest
Kelsey Bishop is a Type 3 (SP/SO 3w2 378) whose shift from chasing "The Dream" to discovering her dream tangibly illustrates the 3's growth journey. She is the Founder of Candor, a new kind of professional network...
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#4: Niklas Wilkens (SO/SP 2w3 269) — The Inner Hope Machine, Power Tripping as "Super Jesus," and Seeing Through Ego Pride
Niklas Wilkens is a humanistic depth psychologist practicing in Germany, and he’s been working with the Enneagram for 14 years, although only 2 years ago realized that he was an Enneagram 2. Niklas honestly blew me...
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#2: David Gray (SP/SX 9w1 974) — Gathering Himself, Online Combativeness, and the Diffusion of Identity
David Gray is the most original voice in the Enneagram world today. His impressionistic, symbolic, elemental thinking style has produced utterly fresh insights about the Instincts, trifixation, typing processes, and...
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#1: Emeka Okorafor (SX/SP 8w7 854) — Typing Others, Not Knowing I'm Being Provocative, Advice for Relationships with 8s
Emeka Okorafor is a Sexual 8, and he is a world expert in Enneagram typing. He co-runs Enneagrammer.com, co-hosts the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast and the Dark Arts Academy -- weekly classes where you can watch the...
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